0.000	21.077	MANY:	((APPLAUSE))
21.077	29.571	PERROT:	... Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen (Hx),
29.571	31.367		... It's uh,
31.367	34.490		... truly a historic occasion ... today,
34.490	37.085		... to have % among us,
37.085	40.826		... a citizen who has contributed so much,
40.826	44.139		... not only to this .. entire area,
44.139	47.193		... but t- to the world of ceramics,
47.193	49.959		... and also to the world of literature,
49.959	52.204		... [and been] part %,
50.784	51.354	WOOD:	[@@]
52.204	55.142	PERROT:	of one of the great .. artistic movements,
55.142	58.058		... which .. revolutionized,
58.058	61.095		... the way ... art was considered,
61.095	64.082		... and which today= still has,
64.082	66.292		... extraordinary resonance,
66.292	69.657		... in the work ... of younger artists,
69.657	72.061		... who are .. rediscovering,
72.061	74.292		... something that was discovered,
74.292	75.675		... at the v- --
75.675	77.775		almost at the beginning of this century,
77.775	79.862		... and with which .. Miss Wood,
79.862	82.729		... was so intimately involved.
82.729	83.632	WOOD:	... <P XXX P>?
83.632	87.500	PERROT:	... To have .. the Mother .. of Dada [.. w]ith us,
86.532	86.825	WOOD:	[@]
87.500	92.813	MANY:	((LAUGHTER_AND_APPLAUSE))[=]=[2=2]=
89.670	90.824	WOOD:	[<X Let's keep X> XX],
91.247	91.902		[2Is this it2].
92.813	94.574	PERROT:	is in .. deed a pleasure.
94.574	95.027		N- now,
95.027	96.765		I would like to .. hold forth,
96.765	98.834		but .. I don't think I'm going to be allowed to.
98.834	100.235	MANY:	... [(LAUGHTER)]=
99.247	99.776	PERROT:	[So],
100.235	100.675	WOOD:	@@
100.675	101.463	PERROT:	Beatrice %,
101.463	102.512		.. it is yours @(Hx).
102.512	102.598	WOOD:	@
102.598	102.731	PERROT:	@
102.731	105.163	WOOD:	(H) Is % my voice alright.
105.163	107.403	MANY:	... [((MURMURS_AND_APPLAUSE))]=
105.388	106.583	WOOD:	[Like this alright].
107.403	108.041		(H) Now,
108.041	110.248		referring to that period,
110.248	111.916		(H) just mentioned.
111.916	114.635		(H) .. It a=ll ... touched me=,
114.635	118.097		... by the name ... no.
118.097	123.377		No is the most dangerous (H) word (H) in the English language.
123.377	124.365		(H) .. And,
124.365	127.336		.. it has absolutely .. changed my life.
127.336	128.854		.. (H) For instance,
128.854	131.413		.. (H) ... I was brought up,
131.413	133.644		... very carefully,
133.644	135.952		... I was a =good little girl.
135.952	138.577		... And I was in great <X revolt X>.
138.577	142.282		... My mother saw that I had a governess,
142.282	144.788		(H) that I went to private schools,
144.788	145.987		(H) and I was in --
145.987	148.157		.. I didn't like this at all.
148.157	149.783		... (H) Now,
149.783	151.646		(H) ... one day,
151.646	154.362		... I met Elisa.
154.362	156.164		... A journalist.
156.164	157.860		(H) She knew writers,
157.860	159.520		she knew artists,
159.520	161.920		(H) she lived a bohemian life,
161.920	164.369		(H) and I was very .. attracted.
164.369	165.404		And interested.
165.404	168.093		(H) So I invited her ... to home,
168.093	169.165		.. for luncheon.
169.165	171.172		... (H) After she left,
171.172	172.652		my mother said to me,
172.652	174.357		... <VOX she's common VOX>.
174.357	179.873	MANY:	... (LAUGHTER)=[=]
179.740	181.376	WOOD:	[Th]at .. hurt me.
181.376	184.642		... (H) ... That was first .. no.
184.642	186.359		... (H) Alright,
186.359	187.859		So the next time,
187.859	189.534		... I went to see her,
189.534	191.436		.. (TSK) (H) ... and,
191.436	194.838		... she had a little apartment in Greenwich Village,
194.838	195.873		and she said,
195.873	198.565		... (TSK) (H) there's a .. young musician,
198.565	200.037		of twenty-six.
200.037	201.902		(H) Who's broken his leg,
201.902	202.667		he's French,
202.667	203.989		he's very lonely,
203.989	205.383		(H) you speak French,
205.383	206.808		so go see him.
206.808	208.340		... (H) So %,
208.340	210.536		I went to see him in the hospital,
210.536	212.236		(H) and it was % Varese,
212.236	215.946		the musician of the avant-garde (H) music,
215.946	217.174		(H) and,
217.174	220.128		the second time I went to call on him,
220.128	223.200		(H) Marcel .. Duchamp .. was there.
223.200	224.651		(H) The great painter,
224.651	227.898		(H) .. of The Nude Descending the Staircase.
227.898	229.208		... Alright.
229.208	230.920		(H) Marcel Duchamp,
230.920	232.066		introduced me,
232.066	232.844		(H) to,
232.844	234.633		Henri-Pierre Roche.
234.633	238.676		.. (H) .. Roche was a .. collector .. of a=rt,
238.676	240.677		(H) a=nd .. a diplomat,
240.677	243.304		(H) uh sent by the French government,
243.304	244.508		very correct,
244.508	247.538		(H) he called on my parents twice,
247.538	249.681		(H) ... and after he left,
249.681	251.107		.. my mother said,
251.107	253.636		... <VOX you're in love with that man.
253.636	255.364		You shouldn't see him again VOX>.
255.364	260.795	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
260.795	262.802	WOOD:	I [didn't] know whether I was or not,
261.045	261.277	AUD:	[@]
262.802	264.202	WOOD:	but I was attracted.
264.202	267.153		... Alright.
267.153	269.732		.. That was her ... second .. no.
269.732	272.613	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=] 
271.870	272.613	WOOD:	[(H) So],
272.613	273.622		very politely,
273.622	275.473		he called a third time,
275.473	276.564		.. (H) and I said,
276.564	277.094		oh %.
277.094	278.039		I was at the phone,
278.039	279.852		(H) I'll come to see you.
279.852	280.713		... (H) He said,
280.713	281.305		oh no,
281.305	284.287		I just have a little apartment in Greenwich Village,
284.287	285.715		(H) it's nothing at all,
285.715	287.206		I said oh that's alright,
287.206	288.359		(H) I don't mind,
288.359	288.796		he said,
288.796	289.908		(H) no no no,
289.908	290.260		it's --
290.260	291.073		(H) It's not --
291.073	292.397		It's not attractive.
292.397	293.637		(H) I said lo=ok.
293.637	296.514		.. I'm .. shopping just around the corner,
296.514	302.800	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
302.800	304.355	WOOD:	[I see you get the] point.
302.800	303.900	AUD:	[@ @@@]
304.355	310.660	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
310.660	311.526	WOOD:	It was a lie,
311.526	312.770		if I ever said one.
312.770	315.376	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]=[2=2]
312.995	314.214	WOOD:	[(TSK) @So],
315.064	315.763		[2I2] um,
315.763	317.433		... m- ... decided,
317.433	318.941		and I went to see him.
318.941	322.259		... (H) And I entered his .. very simple little room,
322.259	323.566		I looked around it,
323.566	326.781		(H) and I remembered there were very coarse curtains,
326.781	329.266		and the (H) sun shone through them,
329.266	331.106		(H) made them like gold,
331.106	333.266		(H) and I stood in his room,
333.266	336.901		... and he was very nice gentlemanly man,
336.901	339.244		(H) he didn't quite know what to do,
339.244	340.281		so he came,
340.281	341.902		(H) and he stood opposite me,
341.902	343.015		and looked at me,
343.015	344.214		(H) ... And,
344.214	346.446		I saw a painting on his .. wall,
346.446	347.457		and I saw,
347.457	350.736		(H) a= .. glass of water on the table,
350.736	351.836		(H) ... and,
351.836	353.886		... he wasn't saying anything.
353.886	354.827		(H) .. So,
354.827	356.717		finally I .. looked at him,
356.717	357.618		and I said,
357.618	361.443		... <VOX aren't you going to show me your .. etchings VOX>?
361.443	368.305	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
368.305	369.840	WOOD:	From that time on,
369.840	372.516		I was never (H) a good little girl.
372.516	379.657	MANY:	((LAUGHTER_AND_APPLAUSE))=[=]=
378.695	379.409	WOOD:	[That],
379.657	382.740		it was the kind of life (H) I wanted.
382.740	383.870		... (H) He,
383.870	384.732		... uh,
384.732	385.133		%%
385.133	386.135		... he %,
386.135	387.260		a=nd Duchamp,
387.260	389.635		introduced me to the Arensbergs,
389.635	392.907		(H) and I met all the great artists of that day,
392.907	395.300		and had a w=onderful (H) time.
395.300	397.721		(H) I was just I think twenty-two,
397.721	399.247		going on twenty-three,
399.247	400.015		(H) so,
400.015	401.242		.. I was of age.
401.242	403.231		And my mother couldn't say anything.
403.231	404.250	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]
403.707	404.778	WOOD:	[(TSK) (H)] Now,
404.778	407.879		... I'm v=ery .. international,
407.879	409.119		... in feeling.
409.119	411.768		... (H) I've traveled quite a good deal,
411.768	412.242		.. and,
412.242	413.740		to me as I travel,
413.740	416.696		(H) people ... are the same .. everywhere.
416.696	421.508		.. (H) And in spite ..	of having .. this feeling for the whole world.
421.508	425.362		.. (H) .. I l=ove that I'm a Californian,
425.362	426.213		(H) [I] --
425.713	428.284	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=[2=2]
427.224	429.938	WOOD:	[2I was born2] in San Francisco,
429.938	434.292		(H) and one of the reasons I love California so much,
434.292	435.390		(H) ... is,
435.390	436.906		.. that it's kinky.
436.906	437.666		(H) [And] --
437.193	447.665	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=[2=2]=[3=3]
443.860	446.044	WOOD:	[2But this is very important2].
446.973	447.665		[3Because3],
447.665	449.389		new ideas,
449.389	451.626		... come up because it's kinky.
451.626	452.927		... And,
452.927	454.402		.. it's just wonderful,
454.402	457.307		the % .. marvelous new ideas that come up.
457.307	458.722		(H) And of course,
458.722	461.605		what I ... like about ... America,
461.605	463.136		... because,
463.136	466.796		in spite of being ... very international in my feeling,
466.796	468.403		(H) I think ours,
468.403	470.736		is a w=onderful country.
470.736	473.623		(H) .. We're quick in friendship.
473.623	476.695		We are ... open to new ideas.
476.695	477.988		(H) We .. made,
477.988	481.567		we presented many .. new inventions.
481.567	482.968		... But,
482.968	486.071		... and this is very serious.
486.071	487.615		.. (H) Ou=r,
487.615	488.708		... um,
488.708	490.326		... (TSK) (H) uh,
490.326	491.606		.. athletes,
491.606	493.688		... (H) our actors %,
493.688	495.139		are getting millions.
495.139	497.325		... (H) And our teachers,
497.325	499.000		.. are being cut down.
499.000	500.928		(H) And our libraries %,
500.928	502.346		are being closed.
502.346	505.714		... <MRC This is very very serious MRC>,
505.714	509.111		(H) it's putting a bl=ock ... on knowledge,
509.111	510.231		(H) China,
510.231	512.088		and other Middle East country- --
512.088	513.700		Not (H) other Middle East but %,
513.700	516.042		... Middle East countries and China,
516.042	517.567		(H) and other countries %,
517.567	521.356		.. (H) are realizing the importance of education.
521.356	523.508		(H) And going after it.
523.508	524.856		.. (H) And we=,
524.856	526.400		.. are cutting down.
526.400	527.819		In that direction.
527.819	530.120		(H) And it worries me a great deal.
530.120	531.063		(H) Now.
531.063	533.990		... (TSK) (H) ... One of the wonders of America,
533.990	534.891		.. (TSK) however,
534.891	537.394		.. (H) (TSK) in spite of the bad things,
537.394	538.973		.. (H) several years ago,
538.973	540.502		Tony Prieto,
540.502	541.661		(H) uh,
541.661	543.305		.. who taught ceramics,
543.305	545.113		... I think at Mills College,
545.113	546.133		he and his wife,
546.133	547.982		(H) % went to Europe.
547.982	548.879		... To learn.
548.879	550.535		And we he rela- -turned,
550.535	551.409		he said,
551.409	554.254		(H) <MRC Europe shares nothing MRC>.
554.254	556.880		... America shares.
556.880	558.915		(H) And because America shares %,
558.915	560.532		our craft movement.
560.532	562.708		(H) Has grown so wonderfully.
562.708	566.937		.. (H) We're doing w=onderfully inventive things in craft.
566.937	567.866		(H) Uh,
567.866	570.455		I have been very fortunate myself,
570.455	572.509		I'm not naturally a craftsman,
572.509	573.374		(H) but,
573.374	577.624		I've had % fou=r .. very wonderful craftsmen,
577.624	579.476		(H) to= help me,
579.476	582.051		(H) uh Lukens at USC,
582.051	583.425		(H) the Natzlers,
583.425	585.559		Otto= and Gertrud Natzler,
585.559	586.909		great potters,
586.909	589.069		(H) when they first came to America,
589.069	590.314		Gertrud Natzler,
590.314	592.560		(H) would sit by me at the wheel,
592.560	594.582		(H) and help me .. try,
594.582	597.132		(H) to see what throwing was about,
597.132	598.340		(H) then,
598.340	600.525		my colleagues in Ojai,
600.525	602.428		Vivika and Otto Heino,
602.428	604.575		(H) they've been so generous,
604.575	605.670		they're teachers,
605.670	607.888		(H) they pass down everything,
607.888	609.040		they've helped me,
609.040	610.943		.. (H) a=nd uh=,
610.943	614.977		... I remember Toshiko= (H) Takaezu,
614.977	616.628		her name's so hard for me to say,
616.628	618.031		(H) was visiting me,
618.031	620.713		(H) she spent a day and a half helping me,
620.713	622.773		(H) ... center on the wheel.
622.773	625.023		(H) <MRC All this sharing MRC>.
625.023	626.441		(H) In our schools.
626.441	628.532		Amongst craftsman themselves.
628.532	630.247		(H) Is a wonderful thing.
630.247	632.208		(H) So the movements go on.
632.208	633.740		(H) .. And of course %,
633.740	635.250		.. our museums %.
635.250	637.602		.. Are so .. important.
637.602	639.422		(H) I don't know,
639.422	643.267		... if military ... minded people,
643.267	646.192		... <PAR hope nobody from the FBI is here PAR>,
646.192	653.761	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
653.761	655.353	WOOD:	If our military people-,
655.353	656.034		%if %uh,
656.034	656.928		realize,
656.928	659.153		.. the importance of museums,
659.153	664.203		(H) <MRC museums protect all the great art MRC>.
664.203	666.151		(H) The gr=eat invention.
666.151	670.577		(H) The creative efforts of man from the beginning of time.
670.577	671.436		.. (H) And,
671.436	673.837		... they're our inspiration,
673.837	677.640		(H) and I think our museums are doing wonderfully now,
677.640	678.468		even though,
678.468	681.448		(H) we're beginning to cut down on education.
681.448	683.348		... (H) ... I %uh,
683.348	685.204		... I feel,
685.204	687.673		... about the importance,
687.673	689.479		(H) ... of craft.
689.479	691.926		... Of bringing ... beauty.
691.926	693.274		.. Craft into life.
693.274	696.955		... (TSK) (H) One day .. I said to Vivika Heino.
696.955	700.199		... Because I'm a snob about art.
700.199	701.422		Ever since a child,
701.422	702.328		I've been dragged,
702.328	704.299		(H) through the museums of Europe,
704.299	705.110		and America,
705.110	708.486		and my eyes are exposed to (H) great art.
708.486	709.787		(H) So I said,
709.787	710.800		... <VOX you know VOX>,
710.800	712.391		... it's a mistake,
712.391	713.691		... to teach, 
713.691	715.317		... .. cr- % pottery,
715.317	716.844		... in high school.
716.844	721.500		... The students haven't time to make anything beautiful and important.
721.500	725.405		... And Vivika Heino so wisely answered,
725.405	728.316		(H) .. that is not the purpos=e.
728.316	730.127		(H) It opens them.
730.127	731.918		... To aesthetics.
731.918	735.200		.. (H) And that's what right education does.
735.200	736.149		.. (H) Now,
736.149	737.401		(H) I wonder.
737.401	744.998		... We have ... a trem=endous ... population in prison.
744.998	747.076		... And it's growing,
747.076	749.357		we can hardly ... house them.
749.357	751.307		... Why.
751.307	753.997		... We put the cart before the horse.
753.997	756.097		... We put people in prison.
756.097	756.999		.. Why=.
756.999	762.930		... Because they have <MRC not had right education MRC> in the beginning.
762.930	765.425		.. (H) And r=ight ... education,
765.425	768.175		is the b=asis (H) .. of everything.
768.175	772.213		... (H) Now ha- I'll .. end with one other (H) .. idea,
772.213	774.075		and then you can ask me questions,
774.075	775.282		and that is this.
775.282	780.477		... (H) .. Since there is an Olympic .. of athletes.
780.477	783.985		... (H) .. Why not have an Olympic,
783.985	787.272		... of ethnic and tribal dancers,
787.272	790.963		(H) from .. countries all over the world.
790.963	793.468		(H) Then people could come,
793.468	794.467		(H) and meet,
794.467	796.560		they'd have beautiful costumes,
796.560	798.944		(H) friendships would be made,
798.944	799.883		(H) a=nd,
799.883	802.953		... I don't think we can have peace,
802.953	805.147		... just with guns.
805.147	807.554		(H) Peace comes through friendship.
807.554	809.850		(H) And friendships would be made,
809.850	813.060		(H) with all these dancers intermingling.
813.060	815.722		(H) And even dancing with each other.
815.722	816.925		... Because,
816.925	818.356		... when you touch,
818.356	820.098		... you don't shoot.
820.098	822.894	MANY:	... (LAUGHTER)
822.894	831.119		((APPLAUSE))
831.119	831.876	WOOD:	.. And %,
831.876	833.517		... I base this %,
833.517	836.037		on a little experience of my own,
836.037	837.455		(H) when I was in,
837.455	839.413		(H) %uh .. %uh Ojai.
839.413	840.898		As a sweet young thing.
840.898	843.652		(H) I would go dancing at the art center.
843.652	845.783		I knew all kinds of square dancing,
845.783	846.881		folk dancing,
846.881	848.799		(H) nobody cared,
848.799	850.673		... who we were dancing with,
850.673	852.633		if it was the rich rancher,
852.633	853.808		(H) or=,
853.808	856.190		(H) a man taking care of trash,
856.190	857.613		... nobody cared.
857.613	860.002		(H) As long as he was a good dancer.
860.002	861.340		(H) And [after],
860.827	861.340	PERROT:	[@@]
861.340	862.394	WOOD:	every month,
862.394	864.011		(H) we had a party.
864.011	865.639		And .. a=ll of us,
865.639	867.790		(H) mixed together in friendship.
867.790	870.110		(H) That .. is w=onderful.
870.110	870.566		(H) And,
870.566	872.352		something like this could happen.
872.352	874.669		(H) If we had great dances.
874.669	875.601		(H) So,
875.601	877.226		... I come back,
877.226	880.055		my las=t ... word is,
880.055	882.381		... violence,
882.381	883.836		.. never ends,
883.836	885.641		... with violence.
885.641	888.187		... And right education,
888.187	890.568		... is the b=asis,
890.568	891.653		.. of everything.
891.653	905.555	MANY:	... ((APPLAUSE))
905.555	905.902	PERROT:	.. Well,
905.902	908.480		I do hope that there is someone from the FBI here,
908.480	909.758		to re[lay this] message,
908.830	909.225	AUD:	[@@]
909.758	911.058	PERROT:	 to the State Department.
911.058	912.910	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]=[2=2]
911.476	912.910	PERROT:	[Because if the] [2State Depart-2] --
912.073	912.910	WOOD:	[2<X Okay X>2]?
912.910	916.893	PERROT:	... <F I .. hope that there is someone from the FBI here,
916.893	919.645		[so that they] could tell it to the State Depart[2ment F>2].
916.893	917.447	WOOD:	[@(H)]
919.295	919.645		[2@@2]
919.295	921.627	MANY:	[2((LAUGHTER_AND_APPLAUSE))2]=[3=3]
919.895	921.627	WOOD:	[3@@@@ .. @(H) @3]
921.627	924.534	PERROT:	Miss Wood asked me to .. inform everyone,
924.534	927.431		that her hearing was rather ... difficult,
927.431	928.281		at the moment,
928.281	929.319		(H) and so,
929.319	929.694		%uh,
929.694	931.780		I will have to speak very loud,
931.780	932.747		and clearly,
932.747	935.165		so so- she can [hear what I say].
933.646	933.923	WOOD:	[Yes,
933.923	936.280		I'm very hard] ... of hearing.
936.280	937.082		... Age.
937.082	938.534		There's no getting around it,
938.534	943.148	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]=[2=2]=[3=3]
938.796	939.130	WOOD:	[so],
939.555	941.687		[2Mister Perrot will take questions2].
941.912	942.248	PERROT:	[3So,
942.248	944.425		if you will ask3] your questions clearly,
944.425	946.287		and please don't make them too long,
946.287	946.512		s- --
946.512	947.802		because I might forget,
947.802	949.091		... the= beginning,
949.091	950.720		by the [time I reach the end],
949.454	952.432	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=[2=2]=[3=3]
951.300	951.720	PERROT:	[2Uh2],
952.057	952.432		[3then3],
952.432	954.377		I will relay them to Miss Wood.
954.377	956.654		... And,
956.654	957.180		... uh,
957.180	958.215		as far as I know,
958.215	959.432		there are no restrictions,
959.432	960.583		on any questions,
960.583	961.634		that you [could ask].
960.899	963.642	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=
963.642	966.295	PERROT:	... Who would like --
966.295	967.182		... Yes=.
967.182	968.909	AUD:	... Beatrice.
968.909	971.037		... when did you first get,
971.037	971.537		.. uh,
971.537	975.003		... into a living relationship in Paris.
975.003	976.755		With all those wonderful artists.
976.755	977.575		At what age.
977.575	982.020	PERROT:	...W- w- <F when did you get into a living relationship,
982.020	984.312		with those p- ... artists in Paris,
984.312	986.161		... at what .. age F>.
986.161	988.075	WOOD:	... With artists in Par[is].
987.631	988.158	PERROT:	[Yes].
988.158	989.780	WOOD:	... (H) .. Um,
989.780	992.572		I went to study .. art in Paris.
992.572	993.823		(H) A little bit.
993.823	998.161		.. (H) % But I .. really didn't .. meet ... any answers,
998.161	1002.899		and to ... answer your question the way I think you would like it answered,
1002.899	1010.640	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]=[2=2]=[3=3]
1003.212	1004.000	PERROT:	[@@@]
1007.871	1008.536		[2@@2]
1009.415	1011.367	WOOD:	[3I was twenty3]-three.
1011.367	1012.772		.. In New York.
1012.772	1013.272	AUD:	.. @
1013.272	1014.296	WOOD:	... Mhm.
1014.296	1018.593	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]=[2=2]=[3=3]=
1014.612	1015.640	PERROT:	[@@ .. @]
1016.581	1017.408		[2@@@2]
1017.840	1018.389	WOOD:	[3And3],
1018.593	1020.695		it was my mother's no.
1020.695	1020.967	PERROT:	[@]
1020.695	1022.649	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=[2=2]=
1021.492	1021.918	WOOD:	[2That2],
1022.649	1023.896		I was so,
1023.896	1025.621		... % really,
1025.621	1027.339		...%b- %b- .. bothered.
1027.339	1029.596		... By her remarks.
1029.596	1031.559		... That I just broke loose.
1031.559	1032.436		And went,
1032.436	1034.536		... in the direction I wanted.
1034.536	1035.880		... She wanted,
1035.880	1037.261		a different direction.
1037.261	1038.964		... Social life.
1038.964	1041.970		... Have me married to a ... stock bro[ker].
1041.600	1041.970	AUD:	[<X Oh X>].
1041.970	1043.995	MANY:	.. (LAUGHTER)
1043.995	1045.169	WOOD:	I wouldn't be here,
1045.169	1046.281		I would've murdered him.
1046.281	1058.195	MANY:	[((LAUGHTER_AND_APPLAUSE))]=[2=2]=
1046.281	1047.520	PERROT:	[@@@@@]
1056.715	1057.516		[2@ ... @2]
1058.195	1059.033	WOOD:	I say this,
1059.033	1061.496		in spite of not believing in violence.
1061.496	1065.835	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
1065.835	1068.260	WOOD:	My wh=ole life changed.
1068.260	1070.898		(H) And I think I was very lucky.
1070.898	1071.792		Because,
1071.792	1074.958		... (H) ... % % three --
1074.958	1076.713		% % oh four friends,
1076.713	1077.747		did so much,
1077.747	1080.841		(H) to= ... help my education.
1080.841	1082.451		(H) Marcel Duchamp,
1082.451	1083.184		Roche,
1083.184	1084.255		(H) the collectors,
1084.255	1085.856		the Walter Arensebergs,
1085.856	1087.017		(H) and then,
1087.017	1088.934		... my old schoolmate,
1088.934	1091.012		Elizabeth Reynolds Hapgood.
1091.012	1092.779		.. (H) Hapgood was co-,
1092.779	1095.331		was uh .. editor of Collier's,
1095.331	1098.537		(H) a ... close friend of President Wilson,
1098.537	1100.387		.. and Elizabeth herself,
1100.387	1101.884		(H) spoke Russian.
1101.884	1103.178		(H) So she knew,
1103.178	1104.902		this was years and years ago,
1104.902	1107.703		before even any of your grandmothers were alive.
1107.703	1109.367	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]
1107.696	1108.682	WOOD:	[% (H) Uh=,
1108.682	1109.332		% %=],
1109.332	1110.378		it was uh,
1110.378	1110.992		% uh,
1110.992	1113.345		she knew a=ll the Russian ambassadors,
1113.345	1114.426		(H) Pavlova,
1114.426	1115.938		Nijinsky=,
1115.938	1116.696		(H) uh,
1116.696	1118.077		(H) Isadora Duncan,
1118.077	1119.331		% all those people.
1119.331	1121.757		(H) I met through my own schoolmate,
1121.757	1123.823		(H) Elizabeth ... Hapgood.
1123.823	1126.669		... So I have been .. very .. lucky.
1126.669	1136.916	PERROT:	... Another question (Hx)?
1136.916	1139.418	WOOD:	... You fear I'll tell the truth.
1139.418	1143.903	MANY:	.. (LAUGHTER)[=][2=2][3=3][4=4]
1140.895	1141.608	PERROT:	[Bravo].
1141.619	1145.178	WOOD:	[2@@@@@@2][3.. (H) @3][4@@ @(H)4]@@
1142.812	1143.718	PERROT:	[3Nothing but3].
1145.178	1147.006	AUD:	How was your relationship with your mother,
1147.006	1148.658		after you .. broke away from her.
1148.658	1152.087	PERROT:	... <F How was your relationship with your mother,
1152.087	1154.277		after you broke away= from her F>.
1154.277	1157.321	WOOD:	... (H) U=m,
1157.321	1160.415		... I broke away,
1160.415	1162.091		I was acting then.
1162.091	1163.641		In the French theatre.
1163.641	1164.966		... (H) .. % --
1164.966	1166.474		.. I wasn't really,
1166.474	1167.504		.. too interested,
1167.504	1168.829		in the stage.
1168.829	1169.839		(H) .. % But,
1169.839	1171.811		in those early years,
1171.811	1175.172		... I thought it was the only way I could earn money.
1175.172	1178.268		.. (H) And I threatened my mother to run away,
1178.268	1179.658		.. (H) so she said,
1179.658	1181.045		if you really mean that,
1181.045	1182.637		I'll take you to Paris.
1182.637	1185.440		(H) And you can study under the Comedie-,
1185.440	1187.141		.. Comedie Francaise.
1187.141	1188.709		(H) Because she thought,
1188.709	1191.256		(H) that if I .. acted in French,
1191.256	1193.002		(H) .. it was safer.
1193.002	1194.202		Than if [I acted,
1193.371	1201.772	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=[2=2]=
1194.202	1195.403	WOOD:	.. in America].
1199.975	1200.873		[2So2],
1201.772	1202.754		... I=,
1202.754	1204.010		.. % ... %uh,
1204.010	1207.088		(H) ... I was acting in the French theatre,
1207.088	1207.936		... <X then I X> --
1207.936	1209.368		I was the ingenue,
1209.368	1211.344		(H) I spoke perfect French,
1211.344	1212.607		had beautiful clothes,
1212.607	1213.906		(H)= uh=,
1213.906	1214.886		.. for two years,
1214.886	1217.038		I think I did over sixty parts.
1217.038	1220.299		(H) But I want to <MRC act in English MRC>.
1220.299	1221.954		... (H) And my good friend,
1221.954	1223.220		Elizabeth Hapgood.
1223.220	1224.482		On account of Russian, 
1224.482	1225.140		and knowing,
1225.140	1227.820		(H) so many ... people in the theatre.
1227.820	1231.147		... % I got many parts offered me,
1231.147	1232.202		and my mother said,
1232.202	1232.983		(H) <VOX No.
1232.983	1234.857		... You get leading lady,
1234.857	1235.584		or nothing VOX>.
1235.584	1237.546	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
1237.546	1238.495	WOOD:	Now=,
1238.495	1241.321		... part of me was really,
1241.321	1243.099		(H) a good little girl.
1243.099	1243.849		Part of me,
1243.849	1246.656		(H) so I was very .. subdued.
1246.656	1247.426		(H) And,
1247.426	1249.511		my spirit was being broken.
1249.511	1250.340		Because she'd say,
1250.340	1250.924		no.
1250.924	1251.384		.. No.
1251.384	1252.560		(H) You can't do that,
1252.560	1253.762		you can't do that.
1253.762	1254.927		... (H) And then,
1254.927	1256.964		... a woman came from Canada.
1256.964	1258.406		.. (H) A=nd said,
1258.406	1260.561		will you come up for three weeks.
1260.561	1261.851		... To Canada,
1261.851	1264.812		... a=nd act in the= theatre there.
1264.812	1266.263		(H) .. On salary.
1266.263	1267.819		... And I said yes.
1267.819	1268.866		% And that's,
1268.866	1270.391		(H) when I broke,
1270.391	1271.841		 ... with my home.
1271.841	1273.164		... And,
1273.164	1274.182		my mother,
1274.182	1277.395		... had a nervous breakdown for two days,
1277.395	1278.927		and my father said,
1278.927	1281.262		... <VOX you're killing your mother VOX>.
1281.262	1282.904		... and I said,
1282.904	1285.071		... <VOX she's killing me VOX>.
1285.071	1287.107		... And I'm the younger,
1287.107	1289.338		and I have a right to live.
1289.338	1293.640	MANY:	... [((APPLAUSE))]=
1289.887	1291.170	 WOOD:	[And I'll always],
1293.640	1295.045		And I'll always,
1295.045	1296.270		let you know,
1296.270	1297.695		.. where I am.
1297.695	1298.304		(H) Now,
1298.304	1301.100		I should say something nice about my mother.
1301.100	1304.977	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)[=]=
1301.441	1303.318	PERROT:	[@@@@@@@]
1304.977	1306.561	WOOD:	She was beautiful,
1306.561	1308.180		.. and very generous,
1308.180	1310.868		(H) but she was in a way of thinking,
1310.868	1311.520		you know,
1311.520	1313.120		(H) we didn't have radio,
1313.120	1314.648		we didn't have television,
1314.648	1318.369		life wasn't (H) as open as it is now.
1318.369	1319.169		(H) And,
1319.169	1320.146		any mother,
1320.146	1321.246		.. would want,
1321.246	1322.468		a protected,
1322.468	1324.632		.. social life for their daughter.
1324.632	1325.763		... Probably.
1325.763	1326.934		... (H) [Now],
1326.360	1328.063	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=
1328.063	1330.153	WOOD:	... when she died,
1330.153	1331.988		in .. thirty-six.
1331.988	1334.442		... I had left home then,
1334.442	1334.667		oh,
1334.667	1336.305		for quite a few years.
1336.305	1340.309		... (TSK) (H) The last three months of her life we became friends.
1340.309	1342.138		(H) And she let go.
1342.138	1345.063		.. Of all that kind of ... thing.
1345.063	1346.292		That didn't interest me,
1346.292	1348.112		and she was v=ery wonderful uh,
1348.112	1349.728		(H) a=nd open,
1349.728	1351.536		(H) and the last day of her life,
1351.536	1352.963		she was dying of cancer,
1352.963	1353.599		she was,
1353.599	1354.562		(H) conscious,
1354.562	1356.545		she knew she was going that night,
1356.545	1358.240		(H) we joked about it,
1358.240	1359.120		(H) and,
1359.120	1359.814		she said,
1359.814	1360.414		now.
1360.414	1361.264		Tomorrow,
1361.264	1364.529		(H) I understand there's a wonderful exhibition,
1364.529	1366.894		(H) don't tell any of the others,
1366.894	1368.307		(H) but go see it.
1368.307	1370.317		She knew she wouldn't be here then,
1370.317	1371.958		(H) she was just wonderful.
1371.958	1374.239		(H) So I'm very happy to be say --
1374.239	1376.077		(H) To s- .. be able to say,
1376.077	1377.906		(H) we became friends.
1377.906	1379.177		.. At the end.
1379.177	1380.682		... Mhm=.
1380.682	1385.266	MANY:	((APPLAUSE))
1385.266	1385.956	PERROT:	... Yes,
1385.956	1386.575		in the back.
1386.575	1387.748	AUD:	Can you expand,
1387.748	1388.050		uh,
1388.050	1388.703		just a bit,
1388.703	1391.003		about your ... thoughts on uh,
1391.003	1393.203		.. bringing art to the prisons.
1393.203	1395.938	PERROT:	... <F Could you explain,
1395.938	1396.751		a little bit,
1396.751	1399.322		about bringing .. art to the prisons %.
1399.322	1400.094		Your thoughts,
1400.094	1401.417		about bringing art,
1401.417	1402.542		.. to the prisons F>.
1402.542	1409.323	WOOD:	... I think it'd be wonderful.
1409.323	1413.167		... Uh,
1413.167	1415.018		... I've always been,
1415.018	1418.719		... concerned about people being (H) in prison,
1418.719	1421.105		(H) ... but I really don't know,
1421.105	1423.195		... very much,
1423.195	1425.999		... I just think it's a terrible thing.
1425.999	1429.037		... That we have so many,
1429.037	1430.092		in prison.
1430.092	1432.576		... And I'm sure,
1432.576	1435.233		... we could s-,
1435.233	1437.768		.. what is called s=ave the lives,
1437.768	1439.182		.. of endless people,
1439.182	1442.155		if they had a creative ... outlet.
1442.155	1445.307		(H) But what is a ... young person to do.
1445.307	1448.439		... (H) ... Brought up,
1448.439	1452.077		... not knowing in any way right from wrong,
1452.077	1453.461		no compassion,
1453.461	1455.327		(H) seeing bing bing bing,
1455.327	1457.520		(H) % guns used all the time,
1457.520	1458.388		no money,
1458.388	1459.539		(H) drugs,
1459.539	1461.648		... why should they not steal.
1461.648	1463.789		... (H) ... Now,
1463.789	1467.478		... I don't know if this has any value,
1467.478	1468.453		it's personal.
1468.453	1472.283		.. % ... (TSK) (H) ... When I left home,
1472.283	1474.374		I made a very unhappy marriage,
1474.374	1475.719		.. in name only.
1475.719	1476.748		(H) But the man,
1476.748	1478.090		it was a disaster.
1478.090	1478.691		And I was,
1478.691	1479.918		for quite a few years,
1479.918	1482.486		(H) <MRC without any money MRC>.
1482.486	1483.656		... And I mean,
1483.656	1485.851		(H) I sold w- my own books,
1485.851	1487.491		(H) to get money to eat.
1487.491	1488.992		I know what it is,
1488.992	1489.892		(H) to be,
1489.892	1490.897		at zero.
1490.897	1493.055		... I was not trained for the world.
1493.055	1494.255		(H) I didn't know,
1494.255	1496.907		.. how .. to relate (H) .. to the world.
1496.907	1497.601		(H) But uh,
1497.601	1498.370		once a week,
1498.370	1500.857		I always went back to see my parents.
1500.857	1501.785		.. (H) and,
1501.785	1503.385		they never said .. anything.
1503.385	1504.486		They never blamed me.
1504.486	1505.838		From that time on.
1505.838	1507.676		(H) My mother s=aid,
1507.676	1509.577		.. % she always had a very good,
1509.577	1510.243		(H) uh,
1510.243	1511.459		luncheon for me.
1511.459	1512.762		(H) Suspecting,
1512.762	1514.058		that I was hungry.
1514.058	1515.112		.. And I was.
1515.112	1516.374		(H) One day she said,
1516.374	1518.624		(H) go up ... to my room,
1518.624	1521.403		(H) and get some information out of my purse.
1521.403	1522.632		(H) .. I went there,
1522.632	1523.540		I opened her purse,
1523.540	1525.562		it was f=ull .. of money.
1525.562	1527.316	MANY:	(LAUGHTER)
1527.316	1528.520	WOOD:	... And,
1528.520	1531.204		... I had the impulse to take some.
1531.204	1533.739		... I knew she wouldn't care,
1533.739	1539.079		... % she probably sent me up almost to ... take some.
1539.079	1540.981		... (H) And I stood.
1540.981	1544.615		... And then something in me said,
1544.615	1545.744		... n=o.
1545.744	1549.920		... That is <MRC not .. the way ... to live MRC>.
1549.920	1552.303		... And I didn't take it.
1552.303	1553.584		... Now,
1553.584	1556.167		this is just a very poor little example.
1556.167	1558.534		... (H) ... But,
1558.534	1561.486		... when you have ... no education,
1561.486	1562.713		when you haven't read,
1562.713	1564.435		(H) I'd read a gr=eat deal.
1564.435	1565.940		Of very fine books,
1565.940	1567.702		(H) also a lot of trash.
1567.702	1570.288		(H) .. But [I'd enjoyed readings].
1568.194	1571.909	MANY:	[(LAUGHTER)]=[2=2]=
1570.757	1571.413	WOOD:	[2Now2],
1571.909	1573.762		you have no guide,
1573.762	1575.554		when you're a young person.
1575.554	1577.042		(H) Why shouldn't you steal,
1577.042	1578.542		why shouldn't you shoot.
1578.542	1580.446		(H) Why shouldn't you go to prison.
1580.446	1584.400		(H) But l=ook .. what we're paying .. for people in prison,
1584.400	1586.404		(H) instead of putting this,
1586.404	1588.008		.. into education.
1588.008	1588.955		(H) You see,
1588.955	1589.842		I feel,
1589.842	1592.747		... our .. culture,
1592.747	1596.347		... <MRC misses the first ... sell MRC>.
1596.347	1598.374		... Which I come back I say,
1598.374	1600.032		is right education.
1600.032	1601.337		(H) And of course,
1601.337	1603.152		... % from what I know,
1603.152	1604.602		I've never had children,
1604.602	1607.082		(H) so I say this with apology,
1607.082	1609.096		(H) but I understand,
1609.096	1611.302		... that it's vital.
1611.302	1614.574		... <MRC For women to love their infants MRC>.
1614.574	1616.363		To cuddle their infants.
1616.363	1618.399		(H) And from what I've read,
1618.399	1620.120		(H) all criminals,
1620.120	1621.831		all abnormal people,
1621.831	1624.294		(H) it's because they've never been loved as young-,
1624.294	1625.965		.. (H) % youngsters.
1625.965	1629.374	PERROT:	... Yes.
1629.374	1631.878	AUD:	[((APPLAUSE))]
1629.510	1630.411	AUD_2:	[I would like to=,
1630.411	1631.484		.. hear something about,
1631.484	1633.034		how she] came to be called,
1633.034	1634.416		... the Mother of Dada.
1634.416	1638.580	PERROT:	... <F How did you become the Mother of Dada F>.
1638.580	1642.441		...